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Death
Club Examples
A
"Death Club" is a collection of people who at best seek to find
justification for inaction that will expedite the demise someone why
has become an emotional or physical drain on them. At worst, they
want to actively hurry things along. The Club provides support
for actions that would cause a burdened conscience. This is a
form of "collective salvation". Unfortunately, people must face
judgment as individuals, not as a member of a group. And even if
a group approves, this does not remove guilt, as former members of the
German National Socialist party (Nazi) came to realize. With regard to
discussion groups, "death club" means that the topics of discussion are
dominated by people who regard death of other people as the ultimate
solution to all their problems, and push an agenda of depression and
hopelessness.
Proverbs
14:6 A scoffer seeks wisdom in vain, but knowledge is easy for a man of
understanding. 7 Leave the presence of a fool, for there you do not
meet words of knowledge. 8 The wisdom of a prudent man is to discern
his way, but the folly of fools is deceiving.
Proverbs 18:2 A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in
expressing his opinion.
Proverbs 23:9 Do not speak in the hearing of a fool, for he will
despise the wisdom of your words.
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Now, here is the real interesting part. These people have a tough
decision to make, and the situation they are faced with seems
hopeless. But, what if... what
if there were things they could try, aggressive avante gard
treatments they could try that so far, have only been tried on
mice? What if there were untried ideas for treatments, not only
for the cancers, but the Alzheimer's disease too? I think there
are, and I happen to know of a few. You will find them detailed
in other pages of this site. What do you think would be the
response if I were to tell them about these things? Would they be
overwhelmed with joy, thankful, and feel a ray of hope like a sunbeam
breaking through storm clouds? No, they would not. They
have decided that death is good. Death (of someone else, mind you),
answers all of their
problems. You see, they have decided that they want the person they are
responsible for to die, and any person who points out that there are
other options, that it is not time to give up, destroys the
rationalization they have built up. They were looking for group
approval, group affirmation, and something to soothe their troubled
consciences.
There is no such thing as group salvation. Redemption by group
affirmation does not exist. You will stand as an individual on
judgment day and answer for your sins. It will not matter what
anyone else thinks.
These people will be incensed. Their consciences will sear their
souls, and they will reject with as much force as they can muster any
suggestion, and scrap of information that they do not have to give up,
that they can fight on. And they will malign and denounce the
messenger as "insensitive".
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Another example of a thread that started on Oct 18th 2010. This one
is about Jean Carper's book "100
Simple
Things
You
Can
do to Prevent Alzheimer's". What I find
striking is the vigorous defense of impotence. These people want to believe there is nothing
they can do, and will go as far as knocking on her door in an attempt
to intimidate her from writing things they don't agree with. I
haven't read her book, so I can't say if I would agree with what she
says or not, but I whole-heartedly defend her right to say them!
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Commenter #3 is quite explicit about her view of the subject, having
voted for euthanasia. This same commenter was also very angry at
some posts to the group challenging the opinion that the disease could
not be fought, that the only outcome was a slow decline, and nothing
should be done to halt or reverse it.
From Aug 11th 2009:
... I usually just glance thru your post because
many of them involve testing for this or that and that cost money.
Money I don't have and I know the doctor will not order the test. They
are interesting and gives food for thought, but to me, your post seem
like you are pushing your viewpoint on me and if I don't agree, I am
being condemned/judged. Your enthusiasm is pushy and overwhelms me. -
That is how I feel...
This
reaction really had me puzzled. This woman was complaining about
someone enthusiastically telling her how to fight the disease.
She was feeling "pressured" and "overwhelmed". But if you read
her comment from November 22, 2010, you will understand why. "...I voted for
'assisted suicide' when I lived in Oregon." She is a lover of
death. To her it solves all problems. Anyone who
effectively and enthusiastically presented a pro-life viewpoint is a
threat. Her conscience must be bothering her, and the pro-life
poster had poked a little hole in the group-affirmation she had been
experiencing.
Well, apparently she got her way because the pro-life poster stopped
contributing information to that message board. Since her view
was shared by the majority of member, most importantly by the
owner/moderator of the group, there cold be no open discussion of the
topic (her "feelings").
But this is a road we dare not follow. Eugenics. Euthanasia.
First is starts with the "good death" of hopelessly ill people.
Then, when the public becomes accustomed to the idea (their consciences
having been seared), the window moves a little bit further to include
the termination of unwanted people of all sorts: mentally ill,
mentally handicapped, physically handicapped, and inconvenient
pregnancies. Later, people accept the genocide of others based on
race, religion, or political viewpoint.
I'm afraid that the Liberal Progressive lovers of death (of others of
course, not themselves, the "elite") have invaded even disease-specific
discussion groups.
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